tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post3901717582441753231..comments2023-11-03T05:34:26.880-05:00Comments on The Whited Sepulchre: Teaching truth as factThe Whited Sepulchrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-3755380538087991182008-09-19T11:03:00.000-05:002008-09-19T11:03:00.000-05:00I would take anything Derita said with a grain of ...I would take anything Derita said with a grain of salt. Nobody is quite sure why Moe called him "Curly Joe", he couldn't hold a candle to Curly. Was it wishful thinking, or some attempt to build confidence? ... Oh wait, you were talking about Derrida, the Master of Obfuscation. Oh well, same observation, different characters and reasons.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of obfuscation, I find it in a lot of breakerslionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14327290369084118043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-22235449800758209532008-09-16T14:06:00.000-05:002008-09-16T14:06:00.000-05:00Wow, I had no idea Kipling was a follower of Lamar...Wow, I had no idea Kipling was a follower of Lamarck (who thought traits evolve - are acquired - by use in individuals - like a giraffe stretching its neck). <BR/><BR/>Interesting post.<BR/><BR/>Sidenote: I think we biologists should take churches to court. When they teach genesis and the creation of Eve from Adam's rib, we should make them give equal time to the evidence from developmental Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-4231836104524931502008-09-16T05:11:00.000-05:002008-09-16T05:11:00.000-05:00Good post, and it captures the essence of what Cam...Good post, and it captures the essence of what Campbell was saying with the <I>Power of Myth.</I> It is not necessary to believe in the literalness of a story in order to gain insight from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-17775716834332134262008-08-28T04:45:00.000-05:002008-08-28T04:45:00.000-05:00"If God became man (in carne), everything we know ..."If God became man (in carne), everything we know must be known through that reality."<BR/><BR/>This I disagree with. How can Ugg the caveman have known how to skin a mammoth through Christ thousands of years before Christ?<BR/><BR/>How come I know 2=2=4? That's outside of God's jurisdiction. It's a brute fact of reality. I have read a bit on the philosophy of mathematics (only marginally easier Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-47842837545340369412008-08-27T15:00:00.000-05:002008-08-27T15:00:00.000-05:00Nick -- As I like to say, a slow minded person can...Nick -- As I like to say, a slow minded person can never win an argument with a smart person, and you my friend are very smart. <BR/><BR/>Nevertheless . . .<BR/><BR/>1, If God became man (in carne), everything we know must be known through that reality. If he did, he did, if he didn't, he didn't. I'm not sure why that is mysticism (not there's anything wrong with that).<BR/><BR/>2. Socrates' (Francis Shivonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211824074217323164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-16447262665912577642008-08-27T10:57:00.000-05:002008-08-27T10:57:00.000-05:00Ever read Borges? He once claimed writers invented...Ever read Borges? He once claimed writers invented their influences in the sense that Borges is influenced by Poe but that only becomes the case after Borges writes. <BR/><BR/>Which brings me to...<BR/><BR/>"The earlier Greeks like Socrates, Plato and Aristotle rejected Derrida-type ideas as just plain silly"<BR/><BR/>So they refute an idea that hadn't been thought of earlier? Yeah, I guess Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-24297276011317980442008-08-27T08:41:00.000-05:002008-08-27T08:41:00.000-05:00Allen -- you had me worried. I thought I was going...Allen -- you had me worried. I thought I was going to slide one by you.<BR/><BR/>As to the DNC and the mania, I have watched too much, and all of Senator Clinton's speech. It's a a personally assigned penance for my sins.<BR/><BR/>Ciao.Francis Shivonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211824074217323164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-88542233667005390062008-08-26T21:00:00.000-05:002008-08-26T21:00:00.000-05:00Nick,I keep asking Francis to drag some Jesuits in...Nick,<BR/>I keep asking Francis to drag some Jesuits in here, just to see what they have to say. He has yet to make this happen.<BR/><BR/>When time permits, check out FS's excellent blog. If you're wanting to know where to eat in Ft Worth TX, or wondering what the Catholic Church is supposed to be doing on certain days, he's your man.The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-61894241070686703162008-08-26T15:35:00.000-05:002008-08-26T15:35:00.000-05:00P.S. -- If anything is revelation besides the Good...P.S. -- If anything is revelation besides the Good Book it must be Hamlet, Macbeth and King Lear, maybe Mozart, and the Constitution of the United States, oh, and a couple episodes of Seinfeld.<BR/><BR/>Ciao, dude.Francis Shivonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211824074217323164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-50379771014420074482008-08-26T15:30:00.000-05:002008-08-26T15:30:00.000-05:00Actually Nick M. I don't disagree with you. Althou...Actually Nick M. I don't disagree with you. Although I do consider Derrida and his ideas to be the "end of the end" of the Western Tradition (I'll blame the beginning of the end on Descartes). After deconstructionism anything is and will be possible.<BR/><BR/>Random points (and then I am done, because I am neither a philosopher or theolgian):<BR/><BR/>No one believes that Jesus was made of wood Francis Shivonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211824074217323164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-16503706762849358542008-08-26T12:17:00.000-05:002008-08-26T12:17:00.000-05:00Francis,To quote Pilate, "What is Truth?"I doubt h...Francis,<BR/><BR/>To quote Pilate, "What is Truth?"<BR/><BR/>I doubt he'd been mugging up on Derrida's collected works the night before. <BR/><BR/>Now, I don't believe some guy called Moses descended from a mountain with the word of God in blazing letters on stone-tablets but... <BR/><BR/>Do I believe, "Though shalt not Steal". Yes, I do. <BR/><BR/>People often say things like, "Shakespeare knew Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-17767297934366575742008-08-26T12:07:00.000-05:002008-08-26T12:07:00.000-05:00It all depends by wht you mean by "truth"...It all depends by wht you mean by "truth" as you rightly say Allen.<BR/><BR/>I recall a while back on Samizdata saying that it is impossible (or irrelevant) for any Christian to believe the whole of the Bible is literally true. Some is poetry such as the Psalms which, as you say, may contain truths but are not "truth". And what of Christ's parables? Does it matter whether Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-20372458193390556102008-08-26T11:43:00.000-05:002008-08-26T11:43:00.000-05:00TWC -- You know I love the TWC Blog.And I am somew...TWC -- You know I love the TWC Blog.<BR/><BR/>And I am somewhat sympathetic to the idea --- but ---<BR/><BR/>It is as problematic as the fundamentalist idea and is a deconstructionist balderdash. That is, if the Incarnation is Truth.<BR/><BR/>So, to be even more pugnacious -- You are both wrong.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, <BR/><BR/>Your friend, FrancisFrancis Shivonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211824074217323164noreply@blogger.com