tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post6642452025211057816..comments2023-11-03T05:34:26.880-05:00Comments on The Whited Sepulchre: A lengthy digression on Thomas Friedman's Carbon FootprintThe Whited Sepulchrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-33909081998740592562010-10-10T14:44:49.679-05:002010-10-10T14:44:49.679-05:00Cedric still leaves, breathes, and walks among us....Cedric still leaves, breathes, and walks among us. <br />Climategate left him unfazed and unchanged, as would be consistent with his True Believer status. <br />He was gonna come visit me this past summer, but ran into some budgeting difficulties. Still comments once a week or so, regardless of the topic. <br />He ALWAYS chimes in when I'm writing about you-know-what.The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-65743850642115738022010-10-08T15:52:27.298-05:002010-10-08T15:52:27.298-05:00Whatever happened to pool old Cedric?
His posts h...Whatever happened to pool old Cedric?<br /><br />His posts here are pre-Climategate. <br /><br />Opinions have changed. "Peer review" is no longer the shield to criticism it once was now that we know about the huge effort underway to shape the debate.<br /><br />What does poor old Cedric have to say now?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395330682375970528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-46816452478344309072010-02-18T12:12:07.815-06:002010-02-18T12:12:07.815-06:00Why do all you man-made global warming hoaxters se...Why do all you man-made global warming hoaxters seem to neglect acknowledging that the Earth has been warming for the past 18,000 years (you know, since the last Ice Age), or were you just not aware of that? Or that sea level has been rising throughout that time, even at a higher rate than during the past century, prior to a few thousand years ago? Most importantly, the rate of global sea levelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-8645307887978189762009-08-01T12:46:09.218-05:002009-08-01T12:46:09.218-05:00Second, history is littered with mad prophets who ...<i>Second, history is littered with mad prophets who run around saying that the sky is falling.</i><br /><br />Certainly, but prophets operate using revelation. Scientists work using investigation.<br /><br />Big difference.<br /><br /><i>Sometimes there's a financial motive, sometimes there isn't. It's usually just a power grab.</i><br /><br />There is nothing wrong with being Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-85651586912865060082009-08-01T08:37:11.657-05:002009-08-01T08:37:11.657-05:00Cedric,
I trust you've seen the response I got...Cedric,<br />I trust you've seen the response I got from the professor Dickens email. <br /><br />Second, history is littered with mad prophets who run around saying that the sky is falling. Sometimes there's a financial motive, sometimes there isn't. It's usually just a power grab. <br /><br />Throughout the course of our debates, I have offered up numerous parallels between The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-26380926696135919832009-07-31T21:41:33.072-05:002009-07-31T21:41:33.072-05:00One of the main ways that I like to show the pseud...One of the main ways that I like to show the pseudo-scientific nature of global warming denierism is to compare it to my other favourite pseudo-science: Creationism.<br /><br />There is a very strong overlap between the two in terms of origins, tactics, rhetoric and demographics.<br /><br />Compare the logic:<br />Global warming is a hoax and that all the world's scientists are just trying toCedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-59532380592093720652009-07-28T02:26:32.642-05:002009-07-28T02:26:32.642-05:00But too late....It's peer-reviewed ! ! !
That...<i>But too late....It's peer-reviewed ! ! !</i><br /><br />That's not how it works.<br />There is no "too late" in science.<br /><br />It's not like something becomes peer-reviewed and then...everybody goes home to watch The Simpsons!!<br /><br />Entering the process of peer-review is just the beginning.<br />The party has barely started.<br />Stick around for the fun!<br />Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-76086435345504107512009-07-28T01:08:08.092-05:002009-07-28T01:08:08.092-05:00Of course it's been met with scathing criticis...Of course it's been met with scathing criticism. It jeopardizes everybody's funding. <br />But too late....It's peer-reviewed ! ! !The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-85825538612727970662009-07-28T00:33:21.315-05:002009-07-28T00:33:21.315-05:00The "paper" has been met with some stiff...The "paper" has been met with some stiff criticism over the last couple of days. (Scathing, perhaps would be a better word.)<br /><br />In a surprising development, one of the authors (claiming to speak for all three) has attempted to put some distance between themselves and the bombastic press releases accompanying their work.<br /><a href="http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2009/07/Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-28846807446283772702009-07-27T20:29:00.393-05:002009-07-27T20:29:00.393-05:00Back in May, Allen was gracious enough to give pr...Back in May, Allen was gracious enough to give prominence to a <a href="http://thewhitedsepulchre.blogspot.com/2009/05/cooling-warming-ice-ages-1970s-disco.html" rel="nofollow">video that debunked the '70's Ice Age Myth.</a><br /><br />The video is very well put together and is part of a continuing series called <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/greenman3610#play/uploads" rel="Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-46341205418281286252009-07-27T19:09:34.105-05:002009-07-27T19:09:34.105-05:00POOMA?
Oh, I had to google that one.
(I'm goin...POOMA?<br />Oh, I had to google that one.<br />(I'm going to keep it for future use.)<br /><br />I discovered "P.R.A.T.T" from reading discussions over at Pandasthumb.org<br /><br />Comes in very handy.<br /><br />That led me to the talkorigins.org site and the now famous "Index of Creationist Claims".<br /><br />For anybody who's interested, approaching a single, Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-63176985259764651972009-07-27T18:07:55.786-05:002009-07-27T18:07:55.786-05:00P.R.A.T.T. -- I confess I had to Google that one. ...<a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/PRATT" rel="nofollow">P.R.A.T.T.</a> -- I confess I had to Google that one. <br /><br />At first I thought you were referring to <a href="http://www.acronymfinder.com/Pulled-Out-of-My-Ass-%28POOMA%29.html" rel="nofollow">P.O.O.M.A.</a> data.<br /><br />Not that anyone here would ever stoop to that.Dr Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11315005375209513833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-65478643508140100182009-07-27T10:32:41.382-05:002009-07-27T10:32:41.382-05:00Cedric, you threw down your challenge on the other...<i>Cedric, you threw down your challenge on the other post, but didn't include the email, phone, address, etc. Please put all the info there so it'll make sense without having to flip back to this post.</i><br /><br />Ok.Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-10549001445878678472009-07-27T10:27:04.517-05:002009-07-27T10:27:04.517-05:00I'm of the opinion that people aren't sign...<i>I'm of the opinion that people aren't significant enough to have much impact on the weather.</i><br /><br />This not actually something that is supported by the scientific community.<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/03/natural-emissions-dwarf-humans.php" rel="nofollow">This is a P.R.A.T.T point.</a><br /><br />For centuries, Climate cycles have been going on their Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-90888120056573679662009-07-27T06:37:19.534-05:002009-07-27T06:37:19.534-05:00This is the fun part of dealing with Cedric. He&#...This is the fun part of dealing with Cedric. He's going to ask dozens of questions per comment, spread it out over multiple blog posts, bring up things from a year ago, and basically force you to make a career out of your rebuttals. <br />Anyway....<br />For those who are wondering about the Creationist comments, here's a brief explanation:<br /><br />Some people believe that gays and The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-39805812557097826312009-07-26T21:18:11.280-05:002009-07-26T21:18:11.280-05:00...but when he says 100% of the scientific communi...<i>...but when he says 100% of the scientific community supports his stance, it's laughable.</i><br /><br />I welcome the chance to exchange viewpoints with you.<br />However...<br />There is no point in having a discussion with me if you are not going to read what I write.<br /><br />Don't read what you THINK I wrote.<br />Read what I actually wrote.<br />I'll grant you the same Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-1759311805705504272009-07-26T20:10:17.374-05:002009-07-26T20:10:17.374-05:00Lots more where that came from... this is becoming...Lots more where that came from... this is becoming tiresome.TarrantLibertyGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11624121038065257931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-89584873899461106142009-07-26T20:08:08.781-05:002009-07-26T20:08:08.781-05:00Cedric -
Journal of Geophysical Research July 23...Cedric - <br />Journal of Geophysical Research July 23, 2009<br /><br />Influence of Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature <br /><br />McLean/de Freitas/Carter<br /><br />Interesting.... Seems scientifically legit to me.TarrantLibertyGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11624121038065257931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-725316760431902202009-07-26T19:54:46.383-05:002009-07-26T19:54:46.383-05:00Somehow I know this won't sit well with Cedric...Somehow I know this won't sit well with Cedric the Edutainer, but I'm sure he's aware of The Signature Project which features the signatures of over 31,000 scientist who do not agree with the general hypothesis that global climate change is anthropogenic. NOT that climate change doesn't exist. NOT that Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs to Sunday School. Just that Climate Change is TarrantLibertyGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11624121038065257931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-91185592453297310742009-07-26T19:12:19.890-05:002009-07-26T19:12:19.890-05:00We can talk Dickens over there.
Let's do it. ...<i>We can talk Dickens over there.</i><br /><br />Let's do it. <a href="http://thewhitedsepulchre.blogspot.com/2009/07/gerald-dickens-in-nature-geoscience.html" rel="nofollow">See you there</a>.Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-9017216462562764502009-07-26T18:49:01.923-05:002009-07-26T18:49:01.923-05:00Cedric,
I did not, and will never, approach a peer...Cedric,<br />I did not, and will never, approach a peer-reviewed paper with a weapon and demand that it take me to Cuba. <br /><br />Get yer Mr. Dickens back over to the Mr. Dickens post. Don't create a Dickens-like subplot on this one, which is about the size of Tom Friedman and Al Gore's houses (they're of a size that they don't want you to ever, ever own, BTW.)<br /><br />We The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-31032546795875969992009-07-26T17:42:56.451-05:002009-07-26T17:42:56.451-05:00Oops, stuffed up the link to the Sokal hoax.
Apolo...Oops, stuffed up the link to the Sokal hoax.<br />Apologies.<br /><a href="http://www.skepdic.com/sokal.html" rel="nofollow">Let's try that again....</a>Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-68062268910627371172009-07-26T17:38:16.102-05:002009-07-26T17:38:16.102-05:00Allen, you hijacked a peer-reviewed paper.
You mi...Allen, you hijacked a peer-reviewed paper.<br />You misrepresented a team of scientists' work.<br /><br />Please act responsibly.<br />Set the record straight.<br />Do you really want to be part of a disinformation campaign?<br /><br />Do an update. Tell people what the paper really means.<br />It's the decent, honourable thing to do.<br /><br />Gerald Dickens<br />•PhD University of Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-28875598912630441142009-07-26T17:24:58.984-05:002009-07-26T17:24:58.984-05:00Alan Sokal wrote an article...
Yeah. I know.
It&...<i>Alan Sokal wrote an article...</i><br /><br />Yeah. I know.<br />It's called the Sokal hoax.<br /><a href="http://www.domain.com/" rel="nofollow">It's kinda famous.</a><br /><br />What's your point?<br /><br />.................................<br /><br />However, let's not forget your previous post.<br />:)<br /><br />Previously, I asked you to <i>Go ahead and tell us which Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-87674313299454648392009-07-26T17:12:15.745-05:002009-07-26T17:12:15.745-05:00WS -- what can you expect when you blog on global ...WS -- what can you expect when you blog on global warming/climate change? Especially when you use the word "Digression" in the post title.<br /><br />Come on, admit it. You love the traffic. You don't fool me for a minute.Dr Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11315005375209513833noreply@blogger.com