tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post8853364545531914736..comments2023-11-03T05:34:26.880-05:00Comments on The Whited Sepulchre: An Inconvenient TestThe Whited Sepulchrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-4347961548423906862008-08-25T00:34:00.000-05:002008-08-25T00:34:00.000-05:00Cedric,Still working on it. Took my daughter (fre...Cedric,<BR/>Still working on it. <BR/>Took my daughter (freshman) to Texas A&M this weekend. <BR/>Don't give up on me. <BR/><BR/>Also, "The Farmer's Almanac" (not peer reviewed) has shown the courage of their convictions, and is going out on a limb and predicting "Colder". <BR/><BR/>http://news.aol.com/article/brrr-almanac-predicts-cold-winter-ahead/145938The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-53797915943490043572008-08-14T04:03:00.000-05:002008-08-14T04:03:00.000-05:00Hmm.The link doesn't work.Lets' try that again.Sou...Hmm.<BR/>The link doesn't work.<BR/>Lets' try that again.<BR/><BR/>South Africans condemned by AIDS denial.<BR/><BR/>http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/08/05/2324480.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscienceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-31954858204788071472008-08-14T01:04:00.000-05:002008-08-14T01:04:00.000-05:00”I believe this is a scheme to part people from th...”I believe this is a scheme to part people from their money.”<BR/><BR/>What is the foundation for your belief? I don’t understand why you believe this.<BR/>I’m not making fun of you. I’m not trying to make you mad.<BR/>I just don’t understand why you would jump to this conclusion.<BR/> <BR/>”It used to be because of the danger of another Ice Age. Then it was global warming.”<BR/><BR/>This. Is. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-34940996525934851102008-08-13T08:05:00.000-05:002008-08-13T08:05:00.000-05:00Cedric,Once again, my point is as follows....I bel...Cedric,<BR/><BR/>Once again, my point is as follows....<BR/><BR/>I believe this is a scheme to part people from their money. <BR/>It used to be because of the danger of another Ice Age. Then it was global warming. Then it was going to be a 10-year period of cooling that was to be interpreted as a sign of warming.<BR/><BR/>Then the purveyors of panic decided to cover their bets by raising The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-68943555627596135182008-08-13T06:25:00.000-05:002008-08-13T06:25:00.000-05:00Quick question here: WS -- if (as you suppose) Cli...Quick question here: WS -- if (as you suppose) Climate Change [global warming/cooling] is a huge boondoggle, how much of your/our money are you concerned is going to be wasted?<BR/><BR/>Because we've got a war going on, started for what turned out to utter and complete bullshit, that's going to cost us in excess of $3 <I>Trillion</I>. <BR/><BR/>Not to mention the cost in human lives and disruptedDr Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11315005375209513833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-56809601847029936102008-08-13T04:09:00.000-05:002008-08-13T04:09:00.000-05:00"It's going to get warmer. Or colder. Somewhere. S..."It's going to get warmer. Or colder. Somewhere. Sometime. And when it does or doesn't happen, I'll think of you and say "Cedric told me this would happen. Thank God I listened in time." <BR/><BR/>I didn't say this.<BR/>I made no claim. Why don’t you understand this?<BR/><BR/>You have a very special, super duper question? That’s nice.<BR/>I can’t help you.<BR/><BR/>You have a burning desire to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-17360773582861307332008-08-11T06:28:00.000-05:002008-08-11T06:28:00.000-05:00Cedric,You don't get it. I've changed sides. I'm...Cedric,<BR/>You don't get it. <BR/>I've changed sides. <BR/>I'm with you now. <BR/><BR/>It's going to get warmer. Or colder. Somewhere. Sometime. And when it does or doesn't happen, I'll think of you and say "Cedric told me this would happen. Thank God I listened in time." <BR/><BR/>Please, please, please, don't tell me you believe anything more precise than that, for that would imply The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-51896997612275576312008-08-11T04:24:00.000-05:002008-08-11T04:24:00.000-05:00”The scientific community that is making statement...”The scientific community that is making statements about global warming or global cooling is HUGE.”<BR/><BR/>Slight correction there.<BR/>The scientific community is making statements on global warming.<BR/>The scientific community numbers across all scientific disciplines and all countries.<BR/>So, yes. It’s about as huge as you can get.<BR/>Yet fifty or sixty years ago, the number of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-21777440311737363812008-08-10T08:41:00.000-05:002008-08-10T08:41:00.000-05:00Dang it, Cedric, you got me again. The scientific...Dang it, Cedric, you got me again. <BR/>The scientific community that is making statements about global warming or global cooling is HUGE. <BR/>I can't throw a stick in my back yard without hitting a member of that group. <BR/><BR/>And Cedric, I've been looking up these questions in various forums for a long, long time, and have long been looking into your religious beliefs. <BR/><BR/>There The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-58137146208449834422008-08-10T01:42:00.000-05:002008-08-10T01:42:00.000-05:00“A small group (similar to the group in the 1970's...“A small group (similar to the group in the 1970's)…”<BR/><BR/>Wrong on both counts.<BR/><BR/>The global scientific community is not small.<BR/>They number in the millions.<BR/>When they say there is a scientific consensus on global warming, they mean it.<BR/><BR/>If you do your research on the 70’s group, you’ll find glaring differences.<BR/>It’s wrong to say that what’s happening now is the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-78599425562063028932008-08-09T09:18:00.000-05:002008-08-09T09:18:00.000-05:00Cedric,You don't get it. I'm not wanting to criti...Cedric,<BR/><BR/>You don't get it. I'm not wanting to criticize arguments or theories. <BR/><BR/>I want someone to give me a specific thing that we're trying to prevent. <BR/><BR/>Just one little bitty thing. <BR/><BR/>One. <BR/><BR/>A small group (similar to the group in the 1970's) is trying to scare the crap out of everyone on the planet by stating that the weather is going to get warmer The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-45731824667348742522008-08-08T05:18:00.000-05:002008-08-08T05:18:00.000-05:00"This group is vague."I can understand you wanting..."This group is vague."<BR/><BR/>I can understand you wanting concrete details lined up neatly with a timetable but I would suggest that there are some things in science that don't lend themselves to being quantified into easily digestable "happy meals" of knowledge.<BR/><BR/>Take Vulcanology and Seismology for example.<BR/><BR/>These sciences have significant margins of error, yet they are also Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-54657932478265840652008-08-07T23:36:00.000-05:002008-08-07T23:36:00.000-05:00Cedric,I really am going to try to find a little m...Cedric,<BR/>I really am going to try to find a little more info on Global Cooling and the next ice age. <BR/>You asked why, in your first comment, that I thought it was important, and I told you. I'll also try to find out a little more about the guys who made the breathless Gorian predictions about Global Cooling. <BR/><BR/>In the meantime, we have people advocating putting, a huge burden on The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-85160200324684522642008-08-07T18:55:00.000-05:002008-08-07T18:55:00.000-05:00(Sorry for the wait. Work commitments.) “What I'm...(Sorry for the wait. Work commitments.)<BR/><BR/> “What I'm asking of you is a real world prediction”<BR/><BR/>Ah hah! A prediction.<BR/><BR/>A prediction is a statement or claim that a particular event will occur in the future.<BR/>It is more certain than, say, a forecast.<BR/><BR/>Let’s talk about the Pat Robertson example of a prediction you gave.<BR/>This would be classified as a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-78218518425563343332008-08-05T05:38:00.000-05:002008-08-05T05:38:00.000-05:00Cedric,If Reverend Pat Robertson were to say "Beca...Cedric,<BR/>If Reverend Pat Robertson were to say "Because of its tolerance of gays and lesbians, God is going to send a hurricane to destroy Pensacola, Florida in August of 2009", I would have an oh-so-slight increase in respect for Rev. Robertson. <BR/>Because he would be going out on a limb. He would be giving us something tangible to discuss and laugh at him about in September 2009, when itThe Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-60622095738187279682008-08-04T08:37:00.000-05:002008-08-04T08:37:00.000-05:00"Will respond to your points one at a time la..."Will respond to your points one at a time later today."<BR/><BR/>No problem.<BR/><BR/>"Then let me know if you think it's going to get warmer or colder."<BR/><BR/>Based on what? Are you making a scientific prediction? From what theory?<BR/><BR/>"But first, I'm not talking about modeling. That's what's muddying the issue.'<BR/><BR/>I don't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-58297286120252549332008-08-04T07:13:00.000-05:002008-08-04T07:13:00.000-05:00Cedric,Will respond to your points one at a time l...Cedric,<BR/>Will respond to your points one at a time later today. <BR/>But first, I'm not talking about modeling. That's what's muddying the issue. <BR/>Pick anything in the real world....Average ocean temp, upper atmosphere, lower atmosphere, the average of the temps displayed outside on a billboard. Pick one. Please. <BR/>Then let me know if you think it's going to get warmer or colder.The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-26749041717984465172008-08-04T05:33:00.000-05:002008-08-04T05:33:00.000-05:00(Part Two of Two.)”I think if you were to bring so...(Part Two of Two.)<BR/><BR/>”I think if you were to bring some of the same Randi-like skepticism to this issue that you bring to your conversations about evolution/creationism, you might start to question some people's motives.”<BR/><BR/>I’m a big fan of Randi.<BR/>His work got me interested in pseudo-science and flummery. <BR/>If you ever get a quiet afternoon, sift through his archives and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-52286917109852906562008-08-04T05:29:00.000-05:002008-08-04T05:29:00.000-05:00(Part One of Two)”Perhaps, instead of refering to ...(Part One of Two)<BR/>”Perhaps, instead of refering to Meteorologists or Climatologists, I should've said "The High Priests of The Climate Sciences", which would include both fields.”<BR/><BR/>No, that would make you sound ignorant.<BR/>I’m sure you'll agree with me that you’re NOT so…let’s just stick to English and call meteorologists “meteorologists” and climatologists“Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-77473508988517629592008-08-03T15:18:00.000-05:002008-08-03T15:18:00.000-05:00Cedric,Perhaps, instead of refering to Meteorologi...Cedric,<BR/>Perhaps, instead of refering to Meteorologists or Climatologists, I should've said "The High Priests of The Climate Sciences", which would include both fields. <BR/><BR/>So your point about exactly which group is saying that it is, or it isn't, going to get warmer (or cooler) is well taken. One group studies the short-term unpredictability of the weather, and The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-77224100457150339292008-08-02T22:00:00.000-05:002008-08-02T22:00:00.000-05:00"How do you feel about Hillary?"Well, I'm not a fa..."How do you feel about Hillary?"<BR/><BR/>Well, I'm not a fan. Then again, it not my place to comment to comment on American politics.<BR/><BR/>"Unbreakable".<BR/>Very under-rated movie!<BR/><BR/>"I agree with you on Evolution and Church vs. State issues."<BR/><BR/>Glad to hear it.<BR/>Actually, the main reason I became interested in global warming denierism was because of the Creationist/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-73977799286851867852008-08-01T17:44:00.000-05:002008-08-01T17:44:00.000-05:00CK,You claim that you have no idea if it's going t...CK,<BR/>You claim that you have no idea if it's going to get warmer or cooler. I don't either. Neither does Al Gore, or Nancy Pelosi, or any of the charlatans who are about to put a massive wealth transfer into place to either prevent or encourage global warming or cooling, depending on which panic they can peddle at the time. <BR/><BR/>My line of reasoning is as follows: You can make more The Whited Sepulchrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657366124122012622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-53520090855117001462008-08-01T12:10:00.000-05:002008-08-01T12:10:00.000-05:00Whited, looks like you have fan base."He's a smart...Whited, looks like you have fan base.<BR/><BR/>"He's a smart, funny person who welcomes a good discussion."<BR/><BR/>Sounds promising.<BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-85095055699133852102008-08-01T10:53:00.000-05:002008-08-01T10:53:00.000-05:00I for one welcome Mr Katesby to this forum. I thin...I for one welcome Mr Katesby to this forum. I think he'll fit right in.<BR/><BR/>Mr Katesby, while I don't always agree with the Whited Sepulchre, I always enjoy seeing the latest thing he's posted. He's a smart, funny person who welcomes a good discussion. I have the added bonus of being acquainted in the off-line world.<BR/><BR/>I look forward to <A HREF="http://thewhitedsepulchre.blogspot.com/Dr Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11315005375209513833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8771666371746650057.post-32423617790992363742008-08-01T10:20:00.000-05:002008-08-01T10:20:00.000-05:00"...I've followed your comments on other sites for..."...I've followed your comments on other sites for a while."<BR/><BR/>I see.<BR/>Well, they say there's no such thing as bad publicity.<BR/>I disagree very strongly with LC but as I've said before, he doesn't censor.<BR/><BR/>Kevin Colby, however, just can't help himself but quietly push the ol' "delete" button.<BR/><BR/>His blog, his rules...but for a guy who talks a lot about freedom of speech Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com