If it weren't for Ron Paul, I wouldn't be doing this.
I usually liveblog interesting debates. This one won't be interesting. I didn't even get home in time to liveblog the thing. Thank you, Tivo.
Ok, here we go.
Mitt Romney and Rick Perry just finished a little argument over who created the most jobs as governor. Perry claims that Michael Freakin' Dukakis created more jobs as Massachusetts governor than Romney did. Romney claims that George W. Bush created more jobs as Texas governor than Perry did.
Who gives a rip? You know who isn't here at this debate? Former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson. He's wasn't invited to this thing because he's a libertarian-ish sort. Johnson claims (truthfully) that he didn't create a single job as New Mexico governor. He just got the government out of the way and let the private sector take care of it. Can you imagine anyone at MSNBC letting that cat out of the bag to run around on this stage, making a mockery of the proceedings?
The MSNBC moderators (and the rest of the lamestream media) ought to show how many government employees were on the payroll before and after the Romney and Perry administrations. That's what matters.
Michele Bachmann just ripped ObamaCare a new one.
Brian Williams just asked Ron Paul how the world would survive without government regulations. Ron Paul just gave a somewhat rambling answer, but got to the point.... we don't need the government to do it. "But who would keep the airplanes from dropping out of the sky?" Paul shoulda said "follow the Canadian model and privatize it. Canadian Air Traffic Controllers don't fall asleep on the job." But he just said, essentially, let the Free Market handle it.
Why is there an airplane hanging over the audience?
MSNBC, like most left-wing organizations, is having a hard time making things work properly. They can't coordinate their video clips with the debate moderators' questions.
The debate moderators are trying to hang the Massachusetts RomneyCare model on Mitt Romney (where it belongs). Romney is dodging the question, and talking about what he would do in the future.
These people are talking about jobs as if they're the goal of a business. Jobs are not the goal. They are a by-product. Lordy.
Michele Bachmann is claiming that she's the only person with the legislative experience to repeal ObamaCare.
Gingrich is trying to get some party unity going, claiming that all of his brothers in pork are against ObamaCare, and he's not going to put up with MSDNC trying to get Republicans fighting with each other.
Herman Cain, after multiple appearances on Stossel, Freedomwatch, and debates that I've seen, finally cut loose a rip on ObamaCare that I could agree with.
God help me. Rick Santorum just answered a trick question on welfare, using words that I could have possibly written. I think the entire world, after the last 3 years, is now leaning Libertarian.
Bachmann says that "energy" is one of the greatest opportunities for job creation that we have. Bullshit. Outlawing "energy" and digging ditches with spoons would create the most jobs. But that's not the point. We'll have good job creation when we allow entrepreneurs to get filthy stinkin' rich. Jobs are merely a by-product of that process. Deal with it. Thank you.
They just asked Ron Paul if eliminating the minimum wage would create more jobs. He answered that it would. Didn't even think about it. Why? Because it would.
Ron Paul just scared the shit out of me. I thought he'd lost it. He said he could create a gallon of gas for a dime. Yes, for a dime. But yes, if you have an old-school silver dime, it's now worth $3.50.
Brilliant. Freakin' brilliant.
Now Perry is attacking Paul for quitting the party, and writing an anti-Reagan letter. Paul says Reagan taxed too much and spent too much. Yep. Until Obama came along, more debt was rung up under presidents named Reagan and Bush than all other presidents combined. Look it up. Hit the Ronald Reagan label at the bottom of this post.
Ok, the airplane hanging over the audience is Reagan's Air Force One plane.
Shortly after hitting Ron Paul with an anti-Reagan question, they're acknowledging Nancy Reagan in the audience and giving her a round of applause. Nice.
Rick Perry is saying good stuff about Social Security being as broke as The Ten Commandments, and that anyone who promises money to today's young workers is lying.
Mitt Romney, bless his Mormon heart, is defending Social Security. Let's see two workers support one retiree. That's where we're headed.
Rick Perry, bless his perfect hair, is calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme. Because that's what it is.
Herman Cain, bless his thick crust, just suggested that we go to the Chilean system for retirement plans. Go here for info.
The moderators have now taken us off into inoculations. I bet fluoride in the water supply will be next.
Ron Paul just hit a home run on a TSA question. Now Brian Williams is going after him on FEMA. Paul asks him back "What happened before 1979 when we didn't have FEMA?" Let the states handle it. Doh.
Herman Cain wants to fix FEMA and fix Homeland Security. Good luck, Herm.
Jon Huntsman is bleating about what he did for job creation.
I can't watch any more of this. With the possible exception of Ron Paul, I can't drink enough beer to imagine any of these people being willing to cut out a single cabinet-level department. I can't imagine MSDNC asking the question.
If something happens that's remotely interesting, I might expand on this thing. Dull, dull, dull. Talking points, talking points, talking points.
Good night !!
If you're disappointed in this blog post, I apologize. Here's a fun video:
I usually liveblog interesting debates. This one won't be interesting. I didn't even get home in time to liveblog the thing. Thank you, Tivo.
Ok, here we go.
Mitt Romney and Rick Perry just finished a little argument over who created the most jobs as governor. Perry claims that Michael Freakin' Dukakis created more jobs as Massachusetts governor than Romney did. Romney claims that George W. Bush created more jobs as Texas governor than Perry did.
Who gives a rip? You know who isn't here at this debate? Former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson. He's wasn't invited to this thing because he's a libertarian-ish sort. Johnson claims (truthfully) that he didn't create a single job as New Mexico governor. He just got the government out of the way and let the private sector take care of it. Can you imagine anyone at MSNBC letting that cat out of the bag to run around on this stage, making a mockery of the proceedings?
The MSNBC moderators (and the rest of the lamestream media) ought to show how many government employees were on the payroll before and after the Romney and Perry administrations. That's what matters.
Michele Bachmann just ripped ObamaCare a new one.
Brian Williams just asked Ron Paul how the world would survive without government regulations. Ron Paul just gave a somewhat rambling answer, but got to the point.... we don't need the government to do it. "But who would keep the airplanes from dropping out of the sky?" Paul shoulda said "follow the Canadian model and privatize it. Canadian Air Traffic Controllers don't fall asleep on the job." But he just said, essentially, let the Free Market handle it.
Why is there an airplane hanging over the audience?
MSNBC, like most left-wing organizations, is having a hard time making things work properly. They can't coordinate their video clips with the debate moderators' questions.
The debate moderators are trying to hang the Massachusetts RomneyCare model on Mitt Romney (where it belongs). Romney is dodging the question, and talking about what he would do in the future.
These people are talking about jobs as if they're the goal of a business. Jobs are not the goal. They are a by-product. Lordy.
Michele Bachmann is claiming that she's the only person with the legislative experience to repeal ObamaCare.
Gingrich is trying to get some party unity going, claiming that all of his brothers in pork are against ObamaCare, and he's not going to put up with MSDNC trying to get Republicans fighting with each other.
Herman Cain, after multiple appearances on Stossel, Freedomwatch, and debates that I've seen, finally cut loose a rip on ObamaCare that I could agree with.
God help me. Rick Santorum just answered a trick question on welfare, using words that I could have possibly written. I think the entire world, after the last 3 years, is now leaning Libertarian.
Bachmann says that "energy" is one of the greatest opportunities for job creation that we have. Bullshit. Outlawing "energy" and digging ditches with spoons would create the most jobs. But that's not the point. We'll have good job creation when we allow entrepreneurs to get filthy stinkin' rich. Jobs are merely a by-product of that process. Deal with it. Thank you.
They just asked Ron Paul if eliminating the minimum wage would create more jobs. He answered that it would. Didn't even think about it. Why? Because it would.
Ron Paul just scared the shit out of me. I thought he'd lost it. He said he could create a gallon of gas for a dime. Yes, for a dime. But yes, if you have an old-school silver dime, it's now worth $3.50.
Brilliant. Freakin' brilliant.
Now Perry is attacking Paul for quitting the party, and writing an anti-Reagan letter. Paul says Reagan taxed too much and spent too much. Yep. Until Obama came along, more debt was rung up under presidents named Reagan and Bush than all other presidents combined. Look it up. Hit the Ronald Reagan label at the bottom of this post.
Ok, the airplane hanging over the audience is Reagan's Air Force One plane.
Shortly after hitting Ron Paul with an anti-Reagan question, they're acknowledging Nancy Reagan in the audience and giving her a round of applause. Nice.
Rick Perry is saying good stuff about Social Security being as broke as The Ten Commandments, and that anyone who promises money to today's young workers is lying.
Mitt Romney, bless his Mormon heart, is defending Social Security. Let's see two workers support one retiree. That's where we're headed.
Rick Perry, bless his perfect hair, is calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme. Because that's what it is.
Herman Cain, bless his thick crust, just suggested that we go to the Chilean system for retirement plans. Go here for info.
The moderators have now taken us off into inoculations. I bet fluoride in the water supply will be next.
Ron Paul just hit a home run on a TSA question. Now Brian Williams is going after him on FEMA. Paul asks him back "What happened before 1979 when we didn't have FEMA?" Let the states handle it. Doh.
Herman Cain wants to fix FEMA and fix Homeland Security. Good luck, Herm.
Jon Huntsman is bleating about what he did for job creation.
I can't watch any more of this. With the possible exception of Ron Paul, I can't drink enough beer to imagine any of these people being willing to cut out a single cabinet-level department. I can't imagine MSDNC asking the question.
If something happens that's remotely interesting, I might expand on this thing. Dull, dull, dull. Talking points, talking points, talking points.
Good night !!
If you're disappointed in this blog post, I apologize. Here's a fun video:
3 comments:
You watched it so I didn't have to. Thanks for taking one for the team.
Lowering the minimum wage is tantamount to increasing welfare roles. Lower wages = no health insurance so workers use er for non-emergency issues. More people will qualify for food stamps, and more for subsidized housing.
The tea party (misleading moniker)just doesn't get it. Keep people down, and they won't be able to afford your products and services. DUH
By the way, what presidential hopeful put forth a viable plan to put people back to work?
Anon,
I apologize for making some misstatements in this post. The true minimum wage is zero. Always has been, always will be.
The higher you raise the arbitrary price floor, the more people you condemn to earning the true minimum - zero.
All other considerations be damned.
Out of morbid curiosity, have you ever hired someone and voluntarily paid them more than you thought their labor was worth?
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